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not. i don't know what the bu tour means or not. whoever is going to get in, i hope they get in soon because i want the field to be set so we can have the real debate. plus, would a palin run be the best political news that the president's re-election campaign could get? >> let's make sarah palin the republican candidate for president. >> paid for by barack obama. plus, secretary of state hillary clinton makes a surprise overnight trip to pakistan to get more cooperation from them against the terrorists. >> we look to the government of pakistan to take decisive steps in the days ahead. and education nation, the finland phenomenon, inside one of the world's best school systems, what can we learn from them? good day, i'm andrea mitchell, live in washington. president obama is making his first visit to poland the final stop on his european tour. and he arrives after a meeting
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in france with russia's president medvedev who offered to do try to get moammar gadhafi to step aside in libya. chuck todd joins us live from warsaw. could this russian offer be real and where would they get him to go and what is the latest that you're hearing about the efforts to try to get gadhafi out? >> well, the offer is real. look, they signed on in the g-8 declaration. as you know, this has to be agreed upon by all eight countries. this is the wording in the declaration. it says gadhafi has no future and a free and democratic libya. he must go. now, what was interesting here is apparently he said this to president obama in the one on one meeting. and the u.s. delegation decided not to leak that out, said, you know, let them say it or they would wait until the declaration and then the russian foreign minister said it and then they leaked word that medvedev was offering to be a mediator,
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they're going to do an information dump, essentially, on all of what they know about what is going on inside libya now. since they had been sitting -- neutral. they abstained in the united nations. and frankly that was considered a diplomatic victory by the europeans in the united states when they got russia to abstain on what gave them essentially the protective international cover to go in there militarily, andrea. >> and what about the president's next steps, he's meeting with the europeans, the eastern europeans. this was a trip, of course that was originally envisioned a year ago and then had to be delayed because of the volcano ash from the iceland volcano just a year ago. but what are the next steps in this final day, final two days of his trip? >> sure, well, what's interesting is that the u.s. white house aides are saying that they want to keep it at --
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somewhat on the same theme of this helping the fledgling democracies in the middle east. in fact, they say that one of the conversations of president wants to have tonight and tomorrow when he meets, not just with the polish president, but with the eastern and central european leaders is what are some of the lesson learned after the fall of the berlin wall? what worked and what didn't, what was the best way the western world lent a hand when it came to trying to get these countries open their feet, both on an economic and democratic reform. the theme, if you're looking for what white house aides see is a theme of the trip as a success part that they would like to take away from this, it is their ability of trying to get a plan of sorts, an agreed upon international plan of sorts of how to promote the democratic reforms in the middle east and africa. by the way, andrea, one other important point here, in the declaration of the g-8, whole hearted endorsement as we expected, of president obama's
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vision, not only that, very positive words about abbas, no mention of a five-letter word called hamas. >> exactly. the president got what he -- certainly got what he wanted in terms of the middle east after a very contentious visit, of course, from prime minister netanyahu. chuck todd, my hat is off to you. you're the only correspondent i know who could cover the g-8 in deauville and be tweeting from france on french time about the miami heat defeating the bulls. way to go, my friend. you're on top of it all. >> i got up early and caught the fourth quarter. go heat. >> very impressive. have a safe trip home and i know the president is going to joplin, missouri, of course on sunday. so no rest for president obama. meanwhile, back here, sarah palin once again showing she sure knows how to seize the political spotlight. she's kicking off i had national bus tour of east coast historic sites this weekend with plans to stop at gettysburg, the liberty
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bell and new hampshire. the first time since 2008. her tour kicks off at rolling thunder, the annual motorcycle rally held in washington in support of the nation's veterans, particularly those held captive or missing in action, a very serious purpose here on memorial day weekend. ted spock joins us now. ted, first of all, when did you first hear that sarah palin was coming? did you invite her? >> she wasn't invited. we heard yesterday she came out with a press release she was coming to rolling thunder. >> what role do you expect she would play? you've got an event. do you have a rally at the pentagon? this is something that happens every year. we all here in washington look forward to it. how is she going to fit into this? >> okay, we got to remember, first of all, rolling thunder, it is a demonstration for the president, veterans issues, taking care of our church, taking care of our military. and this is why we do this run.
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now, anybody, as you probably know, we have a lot of people that show up in town for this weekend. and this is the weekend -- the reason we're here is because of them reasons. now, we didn't invite her. i heard stories, people calling me and says we endorsed her. we don't endorse nobody. she's not -- we have our program after our run, down at the -- by the lincoln memorial. and she's not invited to speak. we're not endorsing her. but she's -- we can't stop her from coming to ride, if she wants to ride. that's fine because we don't -- >> i know it is an open event. she can get on the back of a harley, but you're not exactly going to have her bus as part of her event. >> absolutely not. we're not endorsing -- we're here for a reason. and in a way this has been taking away for reason we're here. >> you think it is a distraction? i don't want to put words in
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your mouth, but -- >> you don't have to put words in my mouth. it is a big distraction because my phone has been ringing off the hook ever since she did that, she announced that. and, you know, we're not -- we're not political. this is not a political event. we don't want -- maybe she's coming because she knows we have a half a million people in town and thinking she can start her, you know, it is just the way it came out, she's saying we endorsed her, we're not endorsing anybody. she's not speaking on our stage during our program. we're taking care of our issues and that's why we're here. >> ted, thank you very much, and we all look forward to the rally this weekend and we know the serious purpose that motivates what you've been doing for decades now on memorial day weekend. thank you. >> thank you. and palin's announcement intentional or not is perfectly timed to steal the spotlight from any potential republican rivals. next thursday, mitt romney will formally kick off his presidential campaign at a
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barbecue in new hampshire. right now he's making his case in iowa. we can see live pictures there of the event. michele bachmann says she will plan a june announcement in waterloo, iowa, town she was born. deep roots there. seven generations of bachmanns. tim pawlenty is spending his first week on the trail as an official presidential campaign. stu rothenberg is editor of the rothenberg political report and a columnist for "roll call." and vin weber is co-chair of the pawlenty campaign and both join me now. first of all, to you, vin, what about sarah palin? it took everyone by surprise, she certainly knows how to get attention. >> she does. >> what do you think she's up to? >> i don't know. i can't -- i have to say i think tim pawlenty had a great week announcing his candidacy, got to say that. the palin thing surprised me. i have respect for governor palin. had she has not been doing any of the thing you would do conventionally to put together a campaign for president, including this weekend's rally.
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gets a lot of attention, that's fine and good, but she's not putting together donors, organizing iowa, new hampshire, putting together a campaign. >> hiring staff long-term. >> if indeed she is running for president, and she may well be, it is highly, highly unconventional. >> do you think that michele bachmann is running for president? michele bachmann could be a real threat, frankly to tim pawlenty, your candidate in iowa. she's got a better sense of iowa, even though he is next door and has good support there. >> i've known michele, i've known her since she got into politics. i think she's a threat to everyone in iowa. tim pawlenty, no more or no less than anybody else. i thought she was indeed going to rup to run and the fact she's making the announcement in waterloo, i don't think you would go to iowa to announce you weren't running, so i think she will. >> i've been told, stu, that republican leaders are pressuring her not to run because they think pawlenty, huntsman, romney, are better
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potential candidates, the three former governors, than michele bachmann, that it is not her turn. i don't know what you're hearing. >> i think most of the republican establishment would prefer she didn't run. as vin notes, if she gets in the race, when she zbets gets in th, she's a real factor in iowa. she'll dictate some of the narrative, some of the discussion, and she takes out consistent, conservative positions that will make some in her party uncomfortuncomfortabl. i consider her a real player in iowa. >> it is not because she's from minnesota. michele bachmann who she is, would have precisely the same appeal in iowa if she was from colorado, or rhode island, or anything. she appeals to specific constituencies in the republican party and has an electric appeal. but doesn't have anything to do with she's from the neighboring state. >> 60% of iowa caucus attendees last time were self-described evangelic evangelicals. she has a particular message and appeal to that constituency. >> mitt romney has a base,
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presumably, in new hampshire. where does tim pawlenty go if michele bachmann takes up all the oxygen in iowa? do you try to regroup for south carolina? look at the -- >> you go to new hampshire and south carolina. the pawlenty campaign is doing really well. he's been working systematically in organizing an excellent campaign. he also has an excellent campaign developing in new hampshire and in south carolina. he's prepared to move on through those first states. we don't know what may happen if -- i think the tim pawlenty has an excellent chance to do well in iowa. fund-raising is improving and we'll have the money we need to be competitive. >> you have someone like mitt romney with a $10 million month. that is a very big part of the plus. >> mitt romney, if that's the standard, i don't think anybody else will either. >> i think pawlenty has to compete in iowa and has to compete hard. the way the calendar is setting up, the question about how hard will romney compete in iowa, i
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think he will compete but new hampshire is a sweeter spot for him. huntsman competing in new hampshire, i think pawlenty has to compete in iowa. he has to do well. i don't know whether he has to beat bachmann assuming she wins. he has to do really well in order to move on. it is all about, i think it is all about the alternative to mitt romney at the end of the day. pawlenty needs to become the alternative. he doesn't have to do it in iowa but in the first batch of contests. >> stu rothenberg, vin weber, thank you very much. >> had happ >> happy memorial day. >> happy memorial day weekend. >> will you be on the back of somebody's harley this weekend? >> you never know. stay tuned. hillary clinton's hard-line message for pakistan, will they step up to the fight against extremist mse isist extremists? send me your thoughts on twitter @mitchellreports. and we'd stop at nothing until they were ours.
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severe weather this spring continues to leave a path of death and destruction. last night, powerful storms ripped through the atlanta area, killing at least three people. meanwhile in joplin, missouri, the death toll there from sunday's massive twister rose to 132 today. hope is fading that search and rescue crews will find more survivors in the miles and miles of rubble there. charles hadlock is in joplin with the latest. hi, charles. what can you tell us today? >> well, another thunderstorm is rolling in over joplin, this afternoon. and that will slow down the efforts to recover the remaining victims who are still missing. the missing list is now 156. the mayor confirmed today that the death toll climbed to 132. he fully expects that to increase as they begin the
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awesome task of cleaning up the thousands of tons of debris that is now what is left of joplin. they will get a federal designation in the next few days or so that will allow the city crews to come in and begin scraping up the debris and hauling it away. as they do that, they will have two people at each truck watching to see if there are any human remains. this town is still trying to stagger back from this devastation. the president will arrive here on sunday. he will get a tour of the devastation. he will meet some of the victims and attend a memorial service for the victims and the people still living here that now have to rebuild their lives. andrea, back to you. >> charles, thank you very much. thanks for being there. and giving us the latest sad news from joplin. meanwhile, secretary of state hillary clinton vented u.s. frustration with pakistan. in a surprise overnight visit to islamabad, the meetings were somewhat awkward and tense along site joint chiefs chairman mike
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mullen, clinton said pakistani officials have to prove they're really committed to the fight against extremists. >> we have reached a turning point. osama bin laden is dead. but al qaeda and its syndicate of terror remain a serious threat to us both. we both recognize there is still much more work required and it is urgent. we will do our part and we look to the government of pakistan to take decisive steps in the days ahead. >> paul served as a cia analyst for nearly 30 years and is now director of the securities studies program at georgetown university. paul, great to see you again. she is the highest ranking u.s. official to arrive in pakistan since the killing of bin laden. and there has been a lost tension on both sides. most recently in the last 24
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hours we were told that the cia was given access to their forensic teams to go into that compound. what can they conceivably get weeks after the commando raid that wasn't already completely explored by the pakistanis? >> well, good question, since it has been over three weeks and it has been in possession of the pakistanis. the s.e.a.l.s who conducted the raid only had 40 minutes on the scene. so it is understandable to expect that there would be a lot of other things you could find out. we have capabilities. the u.s. has capabilities of a technical sort that go beyond what the pakistanis would have on their own. so the hope is that through finding stuff hidden in walls and that kind of thing that might not be immediately apparent to the pakistanis, even in the three weeks that they had possession of the place, that more information could be cleaned. >> over the years i've known you, we talked a lot about osama bin laden. how shocked were you that he was hiding in plain sight? >> it was a surprise that he was that deep in pakistan.
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now, like a lot of other things, we can think about it after the fact and perhaps we shouldn't have been so surprised. but, you know, quite frankly, i was like most other people and expected he was somewhere in the northwest, rather than where he was. >> what does that tell us about the level of complicity. you know their intelligence service, the isi, the suspicions held for quite some time. we have our allies there who we rely on, general kiani on the military side, but below them, certainly there had to be a lot of support. >> and much of the discussion about what did they know or what they didn't know is a bit of an oversimplification. my guess, and i emphasize it is only a guess, is that we're talking about a situation where people could have known, but chose not to know. in other words, it would have been to the pakistani seniors an obvious embarrass f they discovered this on their own, so they simply didn't make the extra effort to find out.
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>> what do we really want from pakistan? what is the most important thing that hillary clinton most likely would say to president zardari, more importantly to general kiani what do we need to see them deliver? >> she had several things on her agenda. and i think the two most important things were number one, we heard this many times before, more effort in going after the militants who are causing problems for us across the border in afghanistan. but the other thing, just as important, was backing the negotiation effort. we had reports in the past week about what we have been doing, the united states, with the pakistanis, and with a reported contact, rula omar. that's one set of negotiations, sort of parallel with a u.s./afghan/pakistani set of negotiations. we have seen the violence continue in a way that just confirms the view of the administration that we are not going to get out of this purely through military means. a negotiation is essential and
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is essential to have the pakistanis a big part of that. if they aren't, they're going to be spoilers. >> in fact, we're not going to get out of afghanistan by rebuilding afghanistan or by creating a jeffersonian democracy there. there isn't even the money or commitment on the hill for that. you've seen senators kerry and lugar and the other key players really churning on this. and we lost eight troops, nine troops counting the service member who died in the helicopter crash, but eight crops in a bombing yesterday. nine americans dead in the single worst day we had this year. >> which punctuates the point that we can't end this through military means alone. yes, this is going to end not by rebuilding afghanistan or turning it into a jeffersonian democracy, but by being part of a whole set of deals that are going to be reached and the afghans are veteran dealmakers as are the pakistanis that will wind up with some sort of new
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order in which power will be quite dispersed, not so much all with the central government, with karzai or anyone else, that's going to be our ticket out of afghanistan. not something that we would describe as a military victory. >> paul, great to see you, thank you very much for coming in. >> you're welcome. >> and up next, disaster, will congress really withhold money to rebuild joplin? politico next here on "andrea mitchell reports." amanda crow of ocean view, virginia, was a special ops parachute rigger in the navy. she liked the structure and organization of military life, which made buying a franchise ideal when she retired. she bought into a postnet franchise, and is now making a profit and loves being her own boss. for more, watch "your business" sunday mornings at 7:30 on msnbc. [ male announcer ] this is james.
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billions, billions of dollars in reconstruction and relief efforts. usually disaster relief is an automatic yes vote on capitol hill, no questions asked. not in an era of the tea party. some republicans are insisting that any money that is appropriated for missouri or elsewhere must first be offset by budget cuts. let's bring in jonathan alan, who has written the story for politico this is an interesting political quandary because people automatically vote for disaster relief, but now not so fast. >> yes. what you're hearing from conservatives is that if you want to have that disaster relief money, you should be able to take it from other programs rather than adding to the deficit with what is known as emergency funding, a typical designation in budgets for disasters. congressman cantor, you heard claire mccaskill talking about him, the house majority leader, i've heard he's given private assurances to lawmakers from affected states, not just this tornado, other tornadoes and the mississippi flooding, that will be money available, he's already identified the kinds of offsets he would want to look at to be able to move that money forward
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for them. that's not public yet. >> jonathan, where do you think this is going to actually, you know, hit the floor? how quickly are they going to move on this? >> well, right now there is a billion dollars tucked into a homeland security appropriations bill but no indication that will move anytime fast. i think what you're seeing right now is congress wants the president to make a request, not only for a dollar amount, but for some amount of time in which it is needed to get that money out the door. and there may be some tug of war there. i don't expect to see any money moving in the next couple of weeks, certainly the senate is out next week. so it will take a little bit of time. >> jonathan alan, thanks so very much. >> take care. where is gadhafi hiding out? live on the ground in libya with nbc's richard engel. and main street clashing with wall street. and what does finland know that we don't? this is "andrea mitchell reports," only on msnbc.
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french investigators have now released their initial findings in the crash of that air france flight over the atlantic in 2009. it shows that both human and mechanical errors caused the crash. the details, though, are chilling. investigators say the plane climbed to 38,000 feet to avoid turbulence, but the engines then stalled and they say the plane then plummeted for three and a half minutes before crashing into the ocean. 228 people died in that crash. the president and other world leaders have new hope that russia may get into it and help get gadhafi to leave libya to end the standoff that the president's republican opponents are also already trying to make into a campaign issue. republican presidential hopeful tim pawlenty today on "morning joe." >> the united nations has now tied his hands through this resolution that limits his options to make gadhafi go very quickly or very easily. i would have never supported our options to the united nations, i would have kept the
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decision-making fully in our lap so that if you say gadhafi must go, you don't want to let him sit there for six months or a year and continue the situation that we have. >> richard engel is nbc's chief foreign correspondent and is live in tripoli. richard, i thought that would be an interesting context for you there in the field. i'm not sure what tim pawlenty would like the president to do, boots on the ground, that doesn't seem like a very popular position, but what more could be done to get gadhafi out and whether this new russian initiative could be the ticket. >> well, people here don't know very much about this russian initiative. it sounds fairly vague at this point, russia saying that it is in context with members of a libyan regime to work out a political solution, perhaps with gadhafi stepping down, leaving the country, the details aren't very clear. what we are seeing, andrea, i haven't been here for about a month, i just got back a few days ago and we were able to get out on to streets and walk
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around, both with government minders and without government minders and we're seeing more people this time compared to a month ago expressing opposition to the regime. certainly people are coming up to us at this time and not speaking on camera, but telling us this he doney don't support government. in their own neighborhoods, when there is a nato air strike, people are going on to the roofs, starting to whistle, cheer in support of those air strikes. that is certainly not something we saw a month ago. also, the sanctions are having a huge impact. there are fuel lines all across this city, some of them stretch for many blocks. we spoke to one person today who said it can take three or four days waiting online, people leave their cars there, go back home, pay a friend perhaps to push the car forward inch by inch while they wait for fuel. inflation is also very high. so frustration is clearly building. but no indications from gadhafi's regime that it has any
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intentions of stepping down, just a short while ago, the deputy foreign minister said -- g-8 are intervefering with libys internal politics. >> this russian initiative strikes me as almost in parallel to what we were hearing back in the '90s, gulf war one, with the russians at the last minute intervening saying they could get saddam hussein to leave, prevent an all-out war. sometimes the russians have their own -- very often have their own agenda. the other thing, very interested in what you're saying about the sanctions. what the president and david cameron said in london this week is, you know, we're in it for the long haul. we can wait him out. they clearly feel that they can keep this going and that the sanctions and other international pressure will eventually yield results in getting gadhafi out of there. >> we went with someone to his home today and he was terrified that we were with him. he clearly opposed gadhafi's
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regime. he didn't -- sort of trailed him as we walked around the city. and eventually went into a private place and were able to talk. and he said he is one of many people in this city who oppose gadhafi's regime, but are now too frightened to do anything. this is not like benghazi where you had large numbers of people who were able to overrun a particular military base and take back the city. there are many, many different military bases here. yes, the sanctions are hurting, but this person told me today that even though people are frustrated, unless there is more military help from nato, or they see some of the rebels coming from benghazi or misrata, actually entering in the city, he doesn't expect that there -- people will suddenly start rising up and trying to take on the regime with force, anyway, but clearly frustration is building. >> what do you know about this report that british intelligence believe that gadhafi has been hiding out in hospitals to
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clearly protect himself from bombings? >> yeah, i read that report. we're not far away right now from gadhafi's own compound, which has been attacked several times. there have been, by most counts, four or five what the libyan call assassination attempts against gadhafi, including using bunker buster bombs on his compound. last night there was an air strike close to his xoupcompoun. i counted six explosions. we don't know where gadhafi is, we don't know if he's in the hospital, in bunkers, left the city. there rare intelligence reports that he's scared and on the move. >> richard engel, back there, be safe and we'll watch for your reporting on "nbc nightly news" tonight. thank you very much. a new article today tackles the issue of the debt ceiling and sets up another conflict between main street and wall street. the administration says that a default would be catastrophic,
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but some ceos are expressing doubt that congress would ever let that happen. for a nation counting every dollar, some voters say maybe the borrowing limit shouldn't be raised at all. ron foreign forney joins me liv. do you think that the house republicans in particular are willing to go and take the risk of pushing the system to the brink? >> oh, sure. they're certainly willing to go to the brink and get every possible concession they can out of the democrats for some kind of grand package that makes some real cuts in theederal government. the question is, you know, whether or not they jump into the abyss and do people out there on main street recognize as much as people do on wall street and washington just how big of a deal this would be. right now there is no pressure on members of congress to do something about the debt limit. they have no idea as this article points out or both these
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articles point out that this would really, really be a catastrophic occurrence. >> the polling seems to indicate that people not only don't get this debate, but don't have any sense of the urgency of it. >> yeah, we had jim tinkersly and tim went out to wall street and to parkersburg, west virginia, to see the big disconnect between the two. in wall street, they recognize that this would be a huge detriment to the economy. but some of them in new york, some of the financial titans are hoping the republicans do use brinksmanship to try to extract concessions from democrats. main street, though they're the ones that would be hurt by this, just the interest rate on the bonds, if we went into debt, would cost, you know, $650,000 to $700,000 jobs. folks on main street really would be affected. right now they're worried about their jobs and their homes, they're not really paying attention to the issue. so they're not applying pressure yet. >> between now and august, this is all going to build.
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thank you very much, ron forney from the national journal. now to education nation. finland is one of the highest performing education systems in the world, consistently tops the pisa test comparing countries where it far outranks the united states. filmmaker bob compton set out to discover why and the resulting film "the finland phenomenon" traces the sometimes surprising qualities that put finnish students and teachers at the very top. >> politicians, principals, teachers, universities have all understood that this is actually the only resource that we have in finland that has to be taken good care of, the brain, the young people, the education. >> filmmaker bob compton joins us now. finland is number three. china topped everybody else in these rankings in the latest numbers. as we have been pursuing this on education nation and first met back in the fall, back on the
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plaza when we our big summit, it is teaching. it is the value of teaching. not just the pay for teachers, but the way we value teachers in the system. that really makes a huge difference. >> it does make a huge difference in finland. just the culture in finland holds academic and intellectual achievement to a high standard. that permeates the culture. and then they also had very high regard for teachers. but part of the reason that's been true in the modern time is in the '60s, the leadership of finland, political, business and education realized that in order to raise the standard of living of tir people, 60% of the economy was wood products, they had to raise the knowledge content of their citizens. so they raised the requirements on what it took to be a teacher, both at the elementary level and at the middle school and high school. middle school and high school in finland, to be a teacher in
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physics, for example, you need a bachelor's and master's degree in physics and ped goth cal training. that's far different from america. and as a really high standard that actually then ripples through the system. if you have teachers educated with a high content level, you have five, six years of training, then you don't have to do as much testing. you're able to do more -- >> accountability piece becomes less controversial because you've required going in they have a higher education level. >> exactly. >> when we look at this and see all of the, you know, the demands on our budgets, are we really going to force local school systems, which are now spending less on education than they were a year or two ago, for all of the work that the administration tried to focus on this, because of state and local budget cuts. are we going to get them to pay the higher rates that are now required if you have a masters or a ph.d.? >> well, i think, you know, we spent $600 billion on education.
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that's a lot of money we spend more than any other country in the world. even though we may be down a little bit, we're still well ahead of the rest of the world. we're almost 30% higher than what finland spends, for example. the main thing i think america has to do is decide that we need to have our teachers educated to a level, comparable to the top performing nations around the world, and until that, this constant checking and investing, things just aren't going to change. >> we need to change the curriculum in our teachers' colleges. >> we do. what finland did was they narrowed the number of colleges where you could get a teaching certificate. they dramatically increased the content knowledge. they made the training more like medical resident sal, student teachers spend a lot of time in school, and then paid them accordingly. that's not to denigrate our current teachers. our current teachers got an education up to the level that the states require. it is time now in the 21st century to come up to the global
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standard. >> especially as a manufacturing country moves into the more intellectual pursuits, the high tech pursuits, we need to take that next leap. >> absolutely. >> bob coumpton, pleasure to se you. up next, a critical wake-up call that changed his life. meet the television producer who has now written about his near death experience. [ male announcer ] this is lara. her morning begins with arthritis pain. that's a coffee and two pills. the afternoon tour begins with more pain and more pills. the evening guests arrive. back to sore knees. back to more pills. the day is done but hang on... her doctor recommended aleve. just 2 pills can keep arthritis pain away all day with fewer pills than tylenol. this is lara who chose 2 aleve and fewer pills for a day free of pain. and get the all day pain relief of aleve in liquid gels.
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hi, i'm richard lui. coming up on "newsnation," sexual misconduct lawsuits brought against eddie long are expected to be dropped sometime today after the bishop settled with his accusers. will bishop long be able to survive that scandal? today's "newsnation" gut check, italian seismologists who failed to predict a earthquake in 2009 are standing trial for manslaughter. should they be held responsible for the deaths of hundreds of earthquake victims? that's all coming up in 15 minutes. in a matter of only a few
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seconds, a former member of the msnbc family went from being a healthy 38-year-old to the victim of a potentially deadly brain problem. he beat the odds, but came out a very different person. chris is the former executive producer of "morning joe" here on msnbc. and he shares his story in a dramatic and emotional new book "what i learned when i almost died." chris joins us now from new york. chris, it is great to see you back in your old haunt. >> it is strange. >> let's talk about this because i thought i knew you, but then i read the book. and i thought i understood what you went through and i had no idea the pain and the fear. so tell us what you experienced when you left here, after a relatively normal day, there is no easy day here, but you left and got in the car and all of a sudden your life changed. >> took a left out from where you are and experienced the worst pain i ever had in my
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life, in my head, and i knew in 38 year i never felt anything like it. i knew something was very, very wrong, started to get a stiff neck, get nauseous and called my parents who were both in the medical field and they said you need to get to the emergency room. luckily we were in the car on the way to the hospital. so it was really horrific experience. >> and there you are with joe and mika, who, of course, came rushing over, they had just been -- that was the day after the white house correspondents' dinner a year ago. and this experience, i mean, you traveled all over the world with them, done all the campaigns, been in the control room with those crazy hours of the morning, and all of a sudden, i mean, you still were healthy, though. there was no sign, no warning signal. >> none at all. it was a complete fluke. it can happen really to anybody. there is month warning, no cause. it is a freak of nature. just like it could happen or not
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happen, how you come out of it is really -- you have no control over it. some people die right away. some people die after a couple of hours, some people, you know, are really incapacitated. the fact i was able to walk away from it is just now, the subtit book is "how a maniac tv producer put down his blackberry and started to live his life." those are your words. >> well, putting down the blackberry is more a metaphor. >> understood. how did this change you? >> it taught me to declutter my brain and when you almost die, the bar gets really high as to what's going to make you nervous, upset, get you to that knot in your stomach. once you sort of get that out of your brain and streamline what's going on up there, you find you have a lot more room for other things that really matter like family, friends, and that's what
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i hope if you read the book you kind of go along with me as i got that journey over a few weeks and learned about that. >> it certainly does, and the new baby and all the other wonderful things, and joe biden played a roam in this. mika cold called the vice president knowing that he had had an aneurysm and he jumped right in, didn't he? >> he started making phone calls to make sure i got the best doctor. i probably would have gotten that same doctor, but i will say that things were ratcheted up a bit at the hospital once the vice president started calling and saying, hey, can you go see my friend, he's in the emergency room. i, of course, had never met him, but he was so comforting. he called my wife and asked how she was doing. i will never forget how -- >> there's your wife and jill biden and the vice president in the vice president's house it looks like. so a return visit, a healthier visit. well, you know, we know the great people at gw hospital
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where you were, i have had personal experiences there. they are amazing, extraordinary, and we're just grateful to see you, and the book is terrific. >> i appreciate that. >> "what i learned when i almost died." i was stuck here working last night so i missed you at the party so we'll have to find another chance to raise a glass to you. >> thank you for having me on. >> great to see you again healthy and strong. and what political story will be making headlines in the next 24 hours? that's next right here. plus restoring rinse. it's the only listerine® that gets teeth two shades whiter and makes tooth enamel two times stronger. get dual-action listerine® whitening rinse. building whiter, stronger teeth.
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so what political story is going to be making headlines in the next 24 hours? msnbc contributor jonathan capehart is an editorial writer for "the washington post" and joins me. let's stretch it out to 48 hours because we're going into a holiday weekend. what are you looking at? >> two dig stories. sarah palin is starting off her big bus tour of the east coast with rolling thunder from the vietnam veterans memorial in washington and the second big story will be the president's visit to joplin, missouri, on
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sunday. he comes back from his week in europe of summit meetings and saturday and sunday he goes to joplin, missouri, to view the devastation from the storms there last sunday. i know you updated the numbers, 132 killed in that three-quarter mile wide tornado. >> jonathan, it's just devastating. we really hope that they can have some better weather and some better news in the next couple of days. >> yeah. >> i don't know how they get over the shock of what they have -- the loss that they have incurred. jonathan, my best to you for a great holiday weekend. i hope you're off. >> you, too, andrea. >> that does it for us for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." we're going to take monday off and celebrate memorial day and think about those who have served our country and those who have suffered terrible losses in the tornado zone. thanks so much. have a great weekend. ♪
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